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http://66.49.132.181/Pics/artisdesign.gif

don't bother, this is a mess of a shirt

what the hell is this?

I looked at the detail...it has absolutely no meaning.

no meaning. sure, if you want to think that.

urban atari?

i might be able to get into it if it wasnt so atari looking



randy

This shirt is kind of a ripoff:

http://www.wemfg.com/weclothes_show.cfm?show=men%20basics

Well, it's a MASSIVE atari ripoff, but other than that...



"no tiny halftones." Read the guidelines.

never seen those before. however, nobody has a copyright on the idea of color flowing from the top to the bottom and outward. it's a common element in many designs, from the atari logo to those shirts and countless other works. i'm sure that you could find at least 50 examples of this basic shape in use if you looked around long enough. that is why i used it as a basis for the design; it is an easily recognizable shape that connotes a certain style.



however, i doubt you will find anyone using this treatment or even subject matter in combination with that shape. this took me a bit longer to make than just throwing a couple of shapes down, you know?

i don't know...is 30 lpi a tiny halftone? Seems kind of spacious to me. i know i've personally screen printed shirts that had a 40lpi halftone in the design and had no problems. Tiny is more like 150 lpi or even 75 lpi...





...and atari has a third bar of color flowing from the center.

here you can see the difference between a 30 lpi halftone and a 75 lpi halftone:



http://66.49.132.181/Pics/halftones.gif



you tell me which is tiny.

is not!!

finally...someone who gets the point of the shirt.

is too.

icmedia, if you need to explain this much shit... just don't even bother entering shirts like this...

i don't need to explain this much shit, i just like to.



and, i'll keep entering shirts that maybe only one or two people besides myself get for as long as there are people entering shirts that were done in MS paint.

chester i already told you to fuck off

looks like this WE sweater

http://se.zoovillage.com/images/product/pi/00061394/00061394_sed.jpg

ghaa!! what must i do to rid the world of pointless, meaningless geometric designs!! anyone could make this!! i agree that it's not a rip off of the atari logo but it's still un-original and boring!! its a harsh statement but please!! if i am to be a meat billboard for designs i want people to stand and stare... or slap me....eithers good....

so, there are plenty of shirts with this shape that have large-halftone and vectored images following the form that relate to art and design? damn. i thought that the design and art images and the treatment being original might be interesting thrown on top of a highly recognizable form that also has meaning in and of itself (flowing ideas/colors/time/etc.).



this is why i usually don't spend any real time on my submissions here, and i probably won't again anytime soon.

"Design must have 4 or less unique colors, no gradients, no photographs, no tiny halftones." :P

this has 4 unique colors, no gradients, and no TINY halftones. well within the rules.

The only thing I agree about is the halftone...30 lines per inch is really quite large.

you couldn't be the real chester, but you're right about the lpi.

I like it.

Apparently nobody else here has ever used a significant, established shape (like a star, a peace sign, a heart, an ank, etc.) to convey the meaning that shape has already been established as possessing.



To me, since this shape already has been well established through repeated use as signifying flow and/or motion, I thought it would be appropriate to use it to signify that in my design. So how should I have conveyed that feeling? By using motion lines? Probably not, since they've been done By using a swoosh? DEFINITELY not, saince that's been overdone. By using the words, "forward motion and flow of ideas, color, and time?" Apparently that would be the way if I were to go by your reactions. However, that also presents a dilemma, since text on a shirt seems to be a non-no here for the most part.



So, the question stands: how do you convey a message subtly on a Threadless design without using text or by using a literal picture/drawing?

sorry about the poor spelling there; i hit submit by accident before i could check it over.

again, this is why i generally don't spend any real time on designs for this place, and i won't again anytime soon. the best comments i've recieved were for shirts i spent about 10 minutes on, and this took me much longer than that.

Here's my dilemma. I understand where you are coming from, but you do realize this is a shirt. That other people will see. If I designed the world's greatest piece of art for a shirt and it was the shape of the pepsi sign, people wouldn't recognize the art, just the pepsi sign. Same thing happening here.

funny you should mention pepsi; they used the same basic idea as a yin-yang in their logo, just changed it around a bit. that's what i did here-none of the above examples (or any i could find) use the EXACT same shape as this, so this is, in fact, a unique shape that RESEMBLES the others. whatever.

it's obvious you put a lot of time and effort into this design, and it is well done, but the fact remains that when i saw this, the first thing i thought was "hmm. atari." i know it's not the atari logo, but the resmblance is too strong to overlook that impression. clearly i'm not alone. when you see a swastika, you probably don't think hinduism right off the bat either.

right on...to tell the truth, i'm just happy that it sparked some conversation, and maybe got a few people thinking about use of bolder imagery.

I do agree with thisisridiculous, but I like this tee.

the colours are great, the halftones are a nice touch, the shape is interesting.

I also thought 'Atari, but I also thought about a lot of other things as well.

there's people on this site who jump at the chance to shout an idea down as unoriginal.

these people should also publish their IQ, so we can ignore them.



for me, it got that great retro-gamer feel, without having to use an old joystick.

it also reminds me of cheesy 70's title sequences, in style and motion

its also very architectural.

all that before you start processing the halftone imagery



Its not a bad thing to ask people to think, just don't except any results.

icmedia - i like your stuff - a lot of time, thought, consideration and effort has gone into your work both in terms of idea and aesthetic value - as for this shirt - I really like it and would wear it - regardless of all the comments above - it just looks great - 5

mrfunkleberry and kev- thanks for the comments; those are truly complimentary coming from the two of you (both of you have some great past submissions).



in all reality, though, i know how this place works, and i never really expected this to do well here. i mean, just look at some of the shirts threadless has printed...some scored as low as 2.5, others weren't even submitted to the contest at all; they were just prints that their 'friends' did. there have been many amazing designs submitted that will never get printed, and other so-so designs that they will choose.



knowing this, my main purpose on here is to stir up some thought, be it through making smartasss comments or by entering smartass t-shirt designs (if you'll look back through my stuff you'll see how many comments alot of my submissions have stirred up; that's no accident).

icmedia, shut up.

awww...you're still here making comments. how sweet of you!

It looks like a giant dildo. An' not th' kind thet yo' kin use by yo'seff-th' kind thet plugs into th' wall an' requires two varmints t'shove in, as enny fool kin plainly see.

holy guacamole, copper chesterpot's skipped a groove. his/her comments last night are pretty damn funny if you ask me (and yes, i realize that this design is quite phallic)

is that coz it was modelled from a penis?

well. mine sure as shit doesn't look like that, and i'm not in the business of looking at other guy's penises. so, i'd have to guess that no, it wasn't.

icmedia, you give really good critiques. i enjoy reading them.



some of your designs are neat.



i like this one.

but i cant score it high, coz there are some problems.



i wish it werent an atari logo lookalike, there are probably some kind of copyright laws applicable to this kind of thing.

second,

how in the f'ing he;; are they going to print this. there is so much detail, even though it is halftone dots, (which are somewhat-screen-printing-friendly)..... its going to be a helluvajob trying to make this work. study the previous winners. these are things that they chose because they knew they could at least attempt to get them to work. ask yourself why they chose them, whats so great about the design.



you are a smart fellow, i wont doubt you for a second.

your gallery will grow, and it will shape up. and if you keep at it, you might get printable.

vwoop; i appreciate the detailed critique. i'd address your concerns more than i'm about to, bt i've already pointed out that this shape differs enough from atari's logo to avoid copyright issues and that a 30 lpi halftone is hardly difficult to screen print.



in any case, i've got some less detailed, less 'reminiscent of other designs' stuff for the next round. not that anyone will like them, but at least they can't bitch about the same old stuff (they'll just find different, hopefully more interesting, stuff to bitch about).

I actually like this design. Doesn't really make me think atari at all. Similar but different. The colors work so well together and the smooth lines flow together moving upwards - symbolically building and taking flight at the same time. When studying the finer detail this design is even better than the first impression. I like this a lot.